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If you want to understand dogs, you gotta think like them. Do you really think dog like sirloin burgers? Well, sure they do, but they’d be just as happy with ground up cow brains and shark guts.

Well, hey!  Wouldn’t we all? Shark guts — yum-bos! — Mark Shaw (and Maggie)   PGP public key at ftp.netcom.com:/pub/ms/mshaw "I ADMIT to being childish and immature!  When I was a small child, I was kept confined to a crate, all day long, each and every day, day in and day out.  I was never allowed to fully develop."          -Joe Finocchiaro

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C’mon, we all know dogs love to smell as bad as possible. They’ll roll around in feces, eat diapers, scarf their own vomit, etc. I was digging up grubs one day from my lawn and squishing them on the sidewalk when I turned around to see my dog doing the back stroke in them. The answer to the demented bolting around and rubbing their heads on everything in sight after a bath is that they are saying to themselves, "Can’t stand this clean smell. Gotta rub this clean smell off me. Can’t survive this cleanliness. What are all my doggie buddies going to think if they catch me this way?" If you want to understand dogs, you gotta think like them. Do you really think dog like sirloin burgers? Well, sure they do, but they’d be just as happy with ground up cow brains and shark guts. Anyway, just my 2 cents worth

| | But they also tear | around the house (or yard, if let out to dry in the sun) like dogs | possessed. | | I’ve always suspected it’s their little dance of doggie joy over surviving | yet another of those *awful* baths! | | Erika — Mark Christensen                                       ascom-Nexion ph: (508) 266-2315                                     Acton, MA 01720

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Healey) writes: But they also tear around the house (or yard, if let out to dry in the sun) like dogs possessed.  Apparently happy, from their high tail sets and playplayplay attitudes and exuberant barking.  Do all dogs do this, and WHY?

   Not all dogs do this. But the ones that do , do it ’cause they like to. Bob Maida Manassas,Va

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Here’s a behavior question.  My dogs shake and roll ("snake dog!") after a bath, which makes perfect sense to me.  But they also tear around the house (or yard, if let out to dry in the sun) like dogs possessed.  Apparently happy, from their high tail sets and playplayplay attitudes and exuberant barking.  Do all dogs do this, and WHY?

I used to think it was because Sydney was so glad the bath was over but he also acts like that after he plays in the wading pool with Jazz.  He runs around and rubs up against the bushes or the fence. After a bath I don’t dare show him a towel unless I have a very good grip on it–he just about goes beserk!  Now I set up the x-pen in advance and he goes straight in there to dry off so he doesn’t get dirty rolling in the grass.  He still rolls on the driveway tho.  Jazz just doesn’t get that worked up about anything. — Ellen Jackson Dallas, TX

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Here’s a behavior question.  My dogs shake and roll ("snake dog!") after a bath, which makes perfect sense to me.  But they also tear around the house (or yard, if let out to dry in the sun) like dogs possessed.  Apparently happy, from their high tail sets and playplayplay attitudes and exuberant barking.  Do all dogs do this, and WHY?

(Congrats on the lack of reaction, Lisa!) All dogs?  No clue.  But I just bathed both my guys about an hour ago and they certainly ’snake dog’ and roar around the house, wrestling with each other and chasing their own tails.  When I went to brush them out, Noah took particular delight in somersaulting into my lap, then nibbling on my ear. I suspect that the physical contact involved in bathing and brushing tends to ‘rev’ dogs up. — Mary & the Ames (Iowa, USA) National Zoo:  Raise a Fund ("Regis", 11 yo TB); ANZ Sam-I-Am ("Sam", 6 yo ACDx);  ANZ Noah Doll, CGC, OFA Good ("Noah", 3 yo ACD); kitties from h*ll;

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But they also tear around the house (or yard, if let out to dry in the sun) like dogs possessed.

I’ve always suspected it’s their little dance of doggie joy over surviving yet another of those *awful* baths! Erika

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after a bath, which makes perfect sense to me.  But they also tear around the house (or yard, if let out to dry in the sun) like dogs possessed.  Apparently happy, from their high tail sets and playplayplay attitudes and exuberant barking.  Do all dogs do this, and WHY?

My dog also does this.  She seems very happy, but I sometimes wonder if she didn’t find getting a bath a big shot to her status, and wants an immediate shot at winning some game.  Then again, if dominance were a big issue, maybe she’d growl at me instead of behaving so well during bath time. I don’t really know why she gets so playful after a bath.  Maybe she’s just really psyched to be done with the bath…

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But they also tear around the house (or yard, if let out to dry in the sun) like dogs possessed. I’ve always suspected it’s their little dance of doggie joy over surviving yet another of those *awful* baths! Erika

Our old dog, Charlie, some sort of terrier / lab cross (by appearance anyway), was one of the most enthusiastic (psychotic) dogs I have seen who did this.  Ordinarily he was quite a quiet and polite dog, but after a bath, he would go ballistic, tearing around the house.  I still remember one time I had just given him a bath, dried him off with a towel and let him go to go get it out of his system.  He tore at top speed into the living room, leaped on the stomach of my unsuspecting mother who was slouched in an easy chair watching television and drinking a coffee, knocking the wind out of her (he weighs about 40 pounds), and without pausing tore out again before she knew what had hit her.   He was certainly on her favourite dog list that day!

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Do all dogs do this,

All mine do. and WHY?

Perhaps when they are wet, the dog’s sudden drop in surface temperature triggers an adrenaline surge… a manic high… that spurs them into a frenzy of physical activity designed to raise their body temperature. Since they can’t grab a nice scratchy towel to rub down with, they roll and writhe on the ground to stimulate the circulation in their skin. We don’t rely on fur to warm our body, but if we did, it would sure be practical to find a way to dry it out as soon as it got wet, and to keep warm until we were fully dry. I imagine the activities dogs partake in immediately following b*ths has something to do with that. Or, maybe it’s just a release of energy from the stress, ‘fraidies, and "holdstills" that b*ths usually include. Dunno. But it’s fun as the dickens to watch! Michelle

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Oh – and sticking to the subject of this group, here’s my doggy accomplishment:  After a lifetime of asthma & allergies, I did not

have an asthma attack after I bathed my two dogs yesterday (thanks to allergy shots).  The dogs weren’t as impressed as I was, but they did enjoy the towel rubs, afterwards. The End. Lisa Olson-McDonald Old McDonald’s Farm Sparta, WI

    Agree with your entire post!     And congratulations to ALL of you on the successful — and     uneventful for you! — bathtime…  :)     –Amy: Let’s write about DOGS!

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Oh – and sticking to the subject of this group, here’s my doggy accomplishment:  After a lifetime of asthma & allergies, I did not have an asthma attack after I bathed my two dogs yesterday (thanks to allergy shots).  The dogs weren’t as impressed as I was, but they did enjoy the towel rubs, afterwards.

Oh, I am impressed!  YAY!!  I get the allergy shots also and they are such a help.  Also, being able to bathe the dog without an attack helps make them less allergenic — frequently bathed dogs don’t set off allergies as often, you probably knew that? Here’s a behavior question.  My dogs shake and roll ("snake dog!") after a bath, which makes perfect sense to me.  But they also tear around the house (or yard, if let out to dry in the sun) like dogs possessed.  Apparently happy, from their high tail sets and playplayplay attitudes and exuberant barking.  Do all dogs do this, and WHY? Elizabeth and the Wet ‘n’ Wild gang — Elizabeth B. Naime            *   Email may be forwarded and/or posted CUR 70 / FUR 212              *       * Standard Disclaimers Apply*

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There are plenty of "dog" matters that should be getting attention.. not all of the bickering that’s going on.

I agree totally.  I subscribe to 2 other news groups, (1 horse, 1 genealogy).  The horse newsgroup gets a considerable amount of flaming, but not near to the extent as rec.pets.dogs.behavior.  At least in the horse newsgroup, some members abide by the rule that EVERY post must contain a few sentences related to the newsgroup, even if it was, "I rode my horse yesterday and had fun."  At least it was somewhat relavant. The other newsgroup, the genealogy group, RARELY has flames, yet, with no moderator.  I don’t know why flame wars begin over animals, and not ancestors?  Perhaps the readers are older, mature, or just plain nicer. I’ve been flamed once or twice, but rather than reply, I simply ignore, and/or delete the message.  Why drag it on?  Unless some one misinterprets my message, I usually don’t respond to ANY flame or attack on my character.  Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and who am I to change their minds?  If they think I’m an a**hole, so what?  I still get my bi-weekly paycheck, come home to a loving husband, and I still have my health.  Being called a jerk in Cyberspace is the least of my concerns.  I have an opinion of them too, but I don’t shove it down their throats, good or bad.  There are a lot of intellegent, helpful readers out there, why not listen to what they have to say? Oh – and sticking to the subject of this group, here’s my doggy accomplishment:  After a lifetime of asthma & allergies, I did not have an asthma attack after I bathed my two dogs yesterday (thanks to allergy shots).  The dogs weren’t as impressed as I was, but they did enjoy the towel rubs, afterwards. The End. Lisa Olson-McDonald Old McDonald’s Farm Sparta, WI

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It has been apparent that some of you complain about my postings on the rec.pets groups. Most of the time, my messages are a response to some other person making an abusive comment to me, and I simply will not tolerate this abuse at any time. You have the right to send any messages that are pet related and respond to postings. But when you try and insult and "degrade" others with messages that are intended ONLY to annoy, you should expect trouble and alot of "tension" in these groups. If everyone really wanted to have these problems come to a halt, all you have to do is treat the other person with respect, rather than "lashing" back at someone you don’t agree with. So much time has been spent trying to "get the last word in" and everyone wants to be "king of the mountain." That’s fine, but there is a price to pay. Is it worth it? Yesterday, Steve Barnard told me personally he is NOT going to participate in the rec.pets groups any longer. It’s no wonder. Did you see the message someone sent him the other day? Steve Barnard is usually here 7 days a week and deosn’t really go out of his way to insult others; he has ALWAYS been helpful and used a "common sense" approach to dealing with problems. Now is is gone. Whoever called him a "Moron" and told him he endangers is his dogs should thank themsleves…they are responsible for his "quick exit." If you really want to solve the problem, you don’t need "kill- filters" and you shouldn’t need to participate in elaborate schemes like "poison pen letters." We can end all of the "tension" at this very moment. Simply let the matters die and do not respond to any other postings about me or other "hot topics." We will now see if everyone is truly sincere about ending the tension and harassment on these groups. Simply say no more. We’ll see who the first person will be (hopefully nobody) to "light" the fire again. This will be difficult for some as they always want to control the situation. But let’s give it one BIG try. Remember, say no more about me, or any pending "hot-topics" and it will go away. We will see if EVERYONE is truly sincere about ending this matter, once and for all! There are plenty of "dog" matters that should be getting attention.. not all of the bickering that’s going on. Good Luck. Let’s see who violates this….then you can blame them, and them alone, for any future problems! Hopefully…this has now ended. =KEN=

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