Question:

Hey y`all, If you really want someone or something to take out your frustrations and aggression on, let it be me. I am the one responsible for all this in the 1st place. I am the one who started it, yes? (Well… "technically" I was sort-of "coaxed" into it here in this particular forum, but that`s okay. I needed "coaxing" quite frankly, and I`m happy to be here.) So again, if you`re really sick and tired of it all, and you find yourself just ACHING to get it all out of your system, then allow me to present myself for any and all appropriate and necessary ass-kicking. I`ll even offer some added incentive by stating that NOONE (except my sister and my therapist)  even comes close to understanding the "big picture" because you only know what little you know compared to both them and myself! But you would;  "if you only knew the ‘whole’ story…" There, now have at it. <taking position Bob K P.S. For the last time, it`s got NOTHING TO DO with the "FORUMS" themselves. It`s all about the people IN the forums!!! And yes. I do miss them still. A small few especially. Two actually, in particular, soooooo much….

Response:

"allow me to present myself for any and all appropriate and necessary ass-kicking." After careful evaluation, and deliberation with an unidentified team of "experts" on ass-kicking criteria (akc) I find none.  You shall recieve no ass-kicking. "I`ll even offer some added incentive by stating that NOONE (except my sister and my therapist)  even comes close to understanding the "big picture" because you only know what little you know compared to both them and myself!  But you would; "if you only knew the ‘whole’ story…" That is good gossip bait, Bob, but as I learned in corporate america, "everybody knows everything".  I do not know what you found out from your sister, except that it bothered you, and I don’t think this group, or at least its well-intentionned core members want to exploit that knowledge just to have thier 2.33 seconds of "fame" at your expense (once again, "at your expense" – do you see a pattern emerging here?  Maybe it’s not, but it kinda looks like that) In ASAP, a simple post about *anything* can turn into virtual human-sacrifice, about 30 posts later, due to rage and hatred related to a topic that is utterly, totally and completely unrelated to the concept, or even a peripheral off-take of the original post.  We’re just a mean bunch, except when we see that this is not what is needed.  Like Nurse Ratched, we know what you need, you see.  (I am simply amusing myself, and in no way attempt to speak for the group, although many of you are surely swift enough to see the grains of truth….) Gary Oh, and Bob, drama is best reserved for TV shows and the theatre.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey y`all, If you really want someone or something to take out your frustrations and aggression on, let it be me. I am the one responsible for all this in the 1st place. I am the one who started it, yes? (Well… "technically" I was sort-of "coaxed" into it here in this particular forum, but that`s okay. I needed "coaxing" quite frankly, and I`m happy to be here.) So again, if you`re really sick and tired of it all, and you find yourself just ACHING to get it all out of your system, then allow me to present myself for any and all appropriate and necessary ass-kicking. I`ll even offer some added incentive by stating that NOONE (except my sister and my therapist)  even comes close to understanding the "big picture" because you only know what little you know compared to both them and myself! But you would; "if you only knew the ‘whole’ story…" There, now have at it. <taking position Bob K P.S. For the last time, it`s got NOTHING TO DO with the "FORUMS" themselves. It`s all about the people IN the forums!!! And yes. I do miss them still. A small few especially. Two actually, in particular, soooooo much….

Response:

Dear friends old and new, Greetings! Hope you are all feeling well and getting along to the best of your ability. I believe there`s much to be gained by possessing a truely good, caring, compassionate and open heart. That, coupled with a truly open mind and the capacity to see things from different, perhaps all perspectives and to make assessments or final judgements, having lastly the benefit and wisdom of as much available accurate information as one can, in an honest, responsible, fair and unbiased manner is all that we as mere mortals can rightfully ask or hope for.   I owe a lot to my whole experience with ASAPM, just as I always knew I would. It taught me much. It also taught me well- but not always. And certainly not about some things in particular. But then nothing in this life is perfect.Take it from a diagnosed expert on perfectionism. Some may recall the many times I used to pour out my heart by writing and posting about the forum and all the people in it I had grown to love and admire and respect and trust with every fiber of my being. All of them. (Most of them.) From the very beginning to the very end. And there was never anything I wouldn`t do for any of them. Time and means were all I ever needed. For example: Two weeks to the day before all this started, I got up at 6 AM on a Sunday morning, and because my own car is so old and unreliable and has barely had any routine maintenance in 3 years, I drove to my sisters` home, picked her up and drove us both in her car to her job. From there I continued on for over 100 miles in just under two hours to my best friend from the "other" `group`s home. I`d promised her to come and do manual labor, which I did and which nearly gave me a heart attack. Not to mention cuts and scrapes all up and down my arms and legs. I still have one long scar on my leg. This took all of five straight hours. Then she took me out to lunch for an hour. Then I had to leave and drive home to my sisters` workplace by 5 PM, pick her up and drive us both home. Four hours later I was a "hero". Or so she said, in her post to the group that evening. Which was meet with quite a number of replies over the next 24 hours by 10 of my closest friends and acquaintances who all seemed to be in agreement somehow. Of course I was grateful and I told them all so. One of my even closer friends said she wished I lived near by and that she`d even like to meet me! I told her the feeling was mutual. 13 days later it happened. And she and all but a few remaining loyal and faithful friends (the real kind) were suddenly gone forever. And of the few who remained… I lost 20 or more close friends, friends and known acquaintances who might`ve been potential friends for all anyone knows. Most of them in an instant. The instant they read Jackies` "Attention: Bob K" post that Sunday night, September 18th, indeed directed  "to me"  but obviously meant for everyone in the groups` perusal.  Even my best friend, the one I helped out that Sunday, two weeks later when she learned thanks to Jackie about a whole slew of newly disclosed and additional "charges" against me stemming all the way back to early July. Exactly how my friend came into possession of this "new additional and lengthy list of "charges" added to the few that Jackie had already posted about in the ASAPM group that Sunday night, Sept. 18, whether my friend went to Jackie herself inquiring or whether Jackie volunteered the damning and maliciously untrue and still today unsubstantiated allegations perhaps because she thought in her own distorted way that my friend somehow needed "protecting", I`ll probably never know that either. But the result was the same- a completely unexpected and untimely, inexplicable and utterly shocking letter of damnation from my friend, only days after I`d driven from my home in Cincinnati to her home in Columbus and on to Cleveland to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, a trip we`d been talking about and planning for weeks. Needless to say we both had the best time in what seemed like ages. After four long days of being "tried" by her, at the same time I was being "tried" by the ASAPM Moderation Team, trying as desperately and effectively as I could to reason with both, in the case of her and myself it was, in the end once again to no avail. We sadly parted for good. I know I was sad, devastated actually, not-to-mention still smack-dab in the middle of my "other trial", the "big one". The first (not counting Jackie herself) of what would soon become many all-too-real, tragic, emotional and unnecessary loses of "people" I knew and cared so much about from the "forum" I have now come to thoroughly loathe and despise. And just to be fair, it wasn`t the moderators` decision that ultimately drove all but a precious few away… While Jackie (sorry but you`ll never convince ME that she had "no" doing or played "no

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